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Bumbershoot part 2: ‘Fortunately, Damon loves time travel’

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Carlton Cuse (at an earlier event)

Carlton Cuse (at an earlier event)

In this segment of the LOST panel at Bumbershoot (the Seattle arts festival named after an old slang term for umbrella), producer/writers Carlton Cuse, Eddy Kitsis, and Adam Horowitz talked about what it’s been like to write the show.

Host Jeff Jensen asked them what was the most difficult thing to write, and they all agreed that it was time travel. They had to put detailed charts and graphs on the writers’ room walls so that they could keep track of where they were.

Carlton said, “Fortunately, Damon really loves time travel.” They spent, he said, a great deal of time trying to figure out the mechanics of it.  Maintaining their concept of non-paradoxical time travel was tricky, and when they opened a time loop, they had to put a lot of thought into making sure they could figure out a way to close it.

The panelists then talked about how getting an end date changed what they were able to do with the show.

They also said some fascinating things about how they write. It’s a collaborative process. Nine of them sit around a conference room table. They start writing each episode by deciding which character it’s going to be about.  Each episode has three stories — an Island story, an off-Island story (which may be a flashback or a flashforward — or, Carlton said, “whatever that might possibly be in Season 6” … hmmm), and a little C-story. Then they fit it all into a six-act structure.

They wrote the show like fans of the show.  “What would be cool?” they asked themselves.  “Wouldn’t it be cool if we actually showed the statue?” And so they did.

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How did Dr. Chang know about time travel?

"It's going to allow us to manipulate time." -- Dr. Pierre Chang (aka Dr. Marvin Candle) in 5x01

"It's going to allow us to manipulate time." -- Dr. Pierre Chang (aka Dr. Marvin Candle) in 5x01

I’ve been focusing a lot recently on the last episode of Season 5, but now I want to switch gears for a bit and look back at the beginning of the season, which has its own intriguing mysteries, especially when seen now, in light of what we learned later on.

In a scene near the beginning of the season premiere, 5×01 Because You Left, Dr. Chang is underground in the Orchid Station, talking to a construction foreman. The year is 1977:

Foreman: There’s an open chamber about 20 meters in, behind the rock. (Pointing to a sonar image that shows part of the donkey wheel) There’s something in there. The only way to get to it is to lay charges here (pointing) and here. Blast through —

Dr. Chang: Under no circumstances. This station is being built here because of its proximity to what we believe to be an almost limitless energy. And that energy, once we can harness it correctly — it’s going to allow us to manipulate time.

Foreman: Hah. (Sarcastically) Okay, so, what, we’re going to go back and kill Hitler?

Dr. Chang: Don’t be absurd. There are rules. Rules that can’t be broken.

Foreman: So what do you want me to do?

Dr. Chang: You’re gonna do nothing. If you drill even one centimeter further and risk releasing that energy — if that were to happen (looks at injured worker and shakes his head) — God help us all.

This raises a lot of questions. How did Dr. Chang know about the special “energy”? Did he come to the Island because he knew that energy was there? And if so, was the whole Dharma Initiative a ruse, a cover for his real purpose of finding and harnessing the energy? Or did Chang discover the energy and its properties only after he arrived at the Island? If so, how?

When Dr. Chang talks about “rules” that can’t be broken, he sounds a lot like Faraday, when Faraday explained the “rules” of time travel to the Losties, before he changed his mind. Where did Dr. Chang get his ideas about the rules?

Dr. Chang’s line, “God help us all,” is so dramatic. Then in the next episode, 5×02 The Lie, that line echoes with an eerie resonance when it is repeated by Eloise Hawking:

Eloise: What you need is irrelevant. Seventy hours is what you’ve got.

Ben: Look, I lost Reyes tonight. (Pause) So what happens if I can’t get them all to come back?

Eloise: Then God help us all. (Crescendo. End of episode.)

What exactly is Eloise Hawking afraid of, and is it the same thing that Dr. Chang was afraid of when he uttered the same phrase?

Transcript now available for Damon, Carlton, Jack Bender’s talk in London

TV Overmind has posted a transcript of the July 3 London panel discussion with Damon Lindelof, Carlton Cuse, and Jack Bender that I mentioned in my last post.

Highlights:

Season 6 will have 16 episodes, with the first and the last each being two hours.

They will start shooting Season 6 soon — on August 24.

Producer/writer Damon Lindelof

Producer/writer Damon Lindelof

Damon, on Jack and Locke and things happening “for a reason” (give that man a duck with $100):

I’m a huge fan of whenever Jack and Locke talk to each other. We’ve been very judicious in having those guys talk to each other. It happens very rarely. I go back to White Rabbit and that six or seven minute long scene where they’re just sitting in the jungle. And Jack says he’s following the impossible, and Locke says what if it’s not impossible and we were all put here for a reason. And that scene is the genesis for those guys’ relationship. And if you think about how that was the third episode shot out of the pilot, here we are now, 100 episodes later, and now Jack is finally saying “Y’know, Locke might be onto something.”

(I think this is the scene in White Rabbit that Damon was talking about):

Producer/writer Carlton Cuse

Producer/writer Carlton Cuse

Carlton, on how they write an episode (I love these little glimpses into the screenwriting process):

We spend a lot of time breaking each aspect of the story, and once we have the story worked out from beginning to end, we’ll put it up on whiteboard and then pitch it back to ourselves. And we’ll have scenes in different colors, with an on-island story, an off-island story, and a C-story, split it into six acts for the commercial breaks, and structure it so you’ll want to come back after each act. Then we’ll give it to some writers to rewrite and send back, and we’ll give our notes, make some changes.

Carlton, on destiny and how it relates to the writers themselves:

Q: You make a lot about the characters searching for their destiny and their purpose. Do you feel that you yourselves had a purpose in your own lives being involved in the show, or you’ve learned something about life from doing it?

Carlton: I think as writers we use the show to explore personal issues, spiritual or otherwise. We’re mainly concerned by how much faith and how much control do you have over your own destiny, something which is very fascinating to us… The writers’ room is diverse and that diversity gets worked out in the characters.

Damon, on the ending:

Q: I want to know about the end of LOST. Michael Emerson said in an interview this week that he suspects it will be quite bittersweet or melancholy. Is it going to be an upbeat ending or ambiguous? Just any kind of hint to the flavor of the ending.

Damon: All of the above. We are aspiring for an ending that is fair. Bittersweet comes with the territory. The ending will be different as for once, we won’t leave you on a cliffhanger. You will stay on the cliff this time.

On the cliff! Ha ha. I can’t wait.

Read the full transcript for lots more interesting tidbits.

Photos of Damon and Carlton from Lostpedia (not taken at the London event).

Carlton and Damon in London — say they are done with time travel

Producer/writers Carlton Cuse, Damon Lindelof, and producer/director Jack Bender answered questions today in a panel discussion in London.

They said they were done with time travel and that Season 6 will be more like Season 1, focusing on the characters and wrapping up their stories.

Source: LOST London Panel Report from an sl-LOST.com reader.

(Darlton had mentioned earlier that they were done with time travel — see my post from May, Damon and Carlton talk about destiny and time loops — but I’m glad they confirmed it today. I’m looking forward to getting back to the character-centric stories.)

Damon and Carlton rehash and prehash — and explain, sort of, the compass

"Locke's compass is in an infinite mobius loop" -- Damon and Carlton

"Locke's compass is in an infinite mobius loop" -- Damon and Carlton

The May 11, 2009 official audio podcast, a good one that I recommend listening to in its entirety if you have time, is Damon and Carlton’s last for Season 5. Michael Emerson, though, will be doing the podcast next week to rehash the Finale.

On the podcast, Damon and Carlton rehash Follow the Leader, talking about how Locke emerged as a strong and compelling guy in tune with the Island, much to the consternation of Ben and Richard Alpert, and how Jack had finally found his mission, after weeks of mopping floors and erasing chalkboards, although he hasn’t been able to attract many followers.

As for the finale, they say we will get a substantial piece of information, and that by the end of the premiere of Season 6, we will have enough information to be able to come up with some theories about how it will all end.

In response to a question about the compass — the one that Locke gave to Alpert and Alpert gave to Locke — they say that what they have done with the compass was intentional in terms of the broader themes of the show. The compass is a puzzle that really has no solution. It is purposefully perplexing — it has no origin! It is in an infinite Mobius loop.

They say they believe there is a large portion of mystery and magic in the world, and it is not their intention to demystify the world of LOST by overexplaining things.

Damon and Carlton’s next talk will be at Comic-Con — their final appearance there.

Photo of Mobius strip by David Benbennick, via Wikipedia, GNU FDL

EW Interview: Damon and Carlton talk about destiny and time loops

This is a good interview.

My favorite part of the first segment is when Carlton says, Phew! They are done with the time-travel season — and that was the defining characteristic of Season 5 — and Season 6 will be about something different.

Interesting …

In the second part of the video, Damon and Carlton talk about the time loop — and they say that even they get a headache thinking about it! Ha ha ha.

This part of the interview can’t be embedded, but you can watch it on the EW site. Recommended!

There are also videos there, which I haven’t had a chance to watch, about Darlton’s favorite Season 5 moments, and some teasers for the Season 5 finale.

Can Jack change the future?

This official video podcast, the last of the season, shows clips of Kate and Jack from 5×15 Follow the Leader, and also the key moments of the scene from 5×14 The Variable where Faraday says that they themselves are the variables.

Evangeline Lilly says it feels good for Kate to disagree with Jack.

Matthew Fox says that Jack believes that detonating the bomb has always been his destiny, and that completing his destiny is his only salvation.

Elizabeth Mitchell says she loves the theory that dropping pebbles in water changes nothing, but dropping boulders changes the course of the whole river. This is interesting, because she is referring to a part of Faraday’s scene which we didn’t actually see. Damon and Carlton said, in one of their audio podcasts, that the pebble/boulder bit, an analogy for how Faraday thought he could change time, was in the original script for the Faraday scene, but had to be cut because the scene was running too long.

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