Monthly Archives: May 2009

The four-toed statue IS Taweret! ABC confirms it!

I called this back in March! Yay, me! 😉

ABC has now confirmed it, very quietly, without any fanfare, just by mentioning it in passing in an Episode Recap on the Official ABC site.

… The Man in Black leaves and addresses the Man in White as Jacob. Yes, this is Jacob. The camera pulls back over the ocean, and we see they were sitting on the base of a giant stone foot. And next to the foot is another foot — and both feet have four toes. And as the camera pulls back, we see what we’ve been waiting to see since we first glimpsed that four-toed foot over three years ago… the towering, majestic statue of the Egyptian goddess Taweret.

So that’s it! All the debate on fan sites about whether the statue is Taweret (the hippo goddess) or Anubis (the jackal-headed god) or Sobek (the crocodile god) has now been resolved, not with a bang, but with … well, not a whimper, but certainly with less fanfare than I had expected.

The posts where I called this, back in March:

The Giant Four-Toed Statue

I’m now totally convinced that the four-toed statue is Taweret.

Two screencaps, and a photo of a real Taweret statue:

The four-toed statue as seen in 5x08 "LaFleur"

The statue as seen in 5x08 LaFleur

Statue as seen in Season 5 Finale, The Incident

Statue as seen in Season 5 Finale, The Incident

A real Taweret statue, in the Rosacrucian Museum of San Jose. Photo by Tom Fowler.

A real Taweret statue, in the Rosicrucian Museum of San Jose. Photo by Tom Fowler.

Editing September 22, 2009 to add: There is now additional official ABC confirmation. “Taweret” is the correct answer to the “placement-exam” question “The four-toed statue is believed to represent which of the following gods?” posted today on the ABC promo/ARG site LOST University.

Photo credits:

Statue in Season Finale: Lost-Media

Statue in 5×08 LaFleur: Lostpedia

Statue in the Rosicrucian Museum: Tom Fowler

The last ‘LOST Untangled’ of Season 5

Mandy asked:

Will there be any more “LOST: Untangled” posted here????

At the time Mandy asked the question, at the end of May, ABC hadn’t yet released the LOST Untangled for the finale episode (5×16-17 The Incident). They did release it soon after that, in early June, calling it the LOST Untangled Finale Event.

It’s good! It’s got music by the fan band Previously on Lost and a cute dancing statue.

If the video doesn’t work, you can see it on the ABC site.

Last edited 9/26/09 to consolidate posts

The LOST-ization of Star Trek

star-trek-cast-in-black-and-white

No, the Star Trek movie doesn’t take place on a tropical island. There are no polar bears, monsters made of smoke, frozen donkey wheels, or four-toed statues. But there are elements of the new movie from J.J. Abrams that have a strong LOST-ian flavor.

J.J. Abrams and Zoe Saldana as Uhuru

J.J. Abrams and Zoe Saldana as Uhuru

Trekking Through Time

There is time travel in Star Trek — and there is talk of destiny! There is even talk about how going back in time can change one’s destiny!

There is a major character (who I won’t name so as not to add even more spoilers to this post) who appears in both his young and old versions in the same time period. He even meets up with himself eventually — at which time he talks about how disruptions in the time/space continuum can be hard to process.

What could be more LOST-like than that?

Either J.J. Abrams and Damon Lindelof, who also worked on the movie, love the ideas of destiny and time travel so much that they feel compelled to use them over and over, or they ran out of ideas and had to recycle old ones — or this grafting of LOST plots onto Star Trek was a nod to us LOST fans.

Not Quite Flashbacks

Backstories are important in Star Trek. They aren’t quite LOST-style flashbacks — they are much shorter and, of course, are not signalled with a whoosh. But they serve much of the same function of showing how the past motivates the actions of the present.

The backstories are done very deftly. We are shown what drives Kirk and Spock with just two quick scenes each, one from their early childhoods and one from the moments they made the decisions that set them on their adult paths. We see the key aspects of their characters, which we later see come to fruition when they are adults. It’s economical story telling, and very well done.

Zachary Quinto as Spock

Zachary Quinto as Spock

Characters

The characters in the movie, especially Spock, were more moving than I remember the characters ever being in the original TV series. Having interesting characters the audience cares about is a LOST trademark, and a welcome addition to Star Trek.

Love Triangle

Don’t panic, Kate haters! There was only the tiniest whiff of a love triangle in the movie. What would have been 30 hours of angsty dialogue on LOST was just a glance and a raised eyebrow in Star Trek

Daddy Issues

What would a LOST-influenced movie be without Daddy issues? In Star Trek, though, the Daddies were mostly benevolent and inspirational influences on their sons. There was some friction, but nothing like that on LOST, where the Daddy issues could make even Oedipus blush.

Lights, Camera … Action!

There were lots of sequences of fighting in Star Trek, more than I might normally like — but they were so goofy and over-the-top that they were harmless. I counted at least three times that Kirk was in a cliffhanger scene. I mean literal cliffhangers, where he was hanging by his fingers off the edge of one thing or another, with a huge, in one case infinite, drop below.

Reaction of a non-Trekkie

Although I’m a LOST nerd, I’m not much of a Trekkie, at least not as far as anything that came after the original series. That one I liked. I must have seen most or all of the episodes of the original series, some of them more than once. After that my interest in Star Trek fizzled out. I never saw more than a few episodes of any of the spin-offs. I saw a couple of the movies, but they bored me. As far as I was concerned, Star Trek had ended 40 years ago.

Even so, I heard so many good things about the new movie, that I decided to see it — though not without some trepidation. The characters of the original series were icons of my childhood. I was afraid it would be jarring to see these familiar characters played by strange actors.

I needn’t have worried. They did a great job. Spock looked uncannily like the original. As for the others, while they looked different, they either captured the essence of the old characters, or they were so compelling in their own right that it didn’t matter.

Time Investment

Two hours versus 103 hours. Okay, there’s no comparison to be made on this one.

Satisfaction

The movie does live up to its hype. I think most LOST fans, whether Trekkies or not, will enjoy it.

Picture of the Star Trek cast and publicity stills of Abrams and Uhuru and Spock from IGN. Lunch box made by Vandor.

Who makes the rules? Esau is to Jacob as Ben is to Widmore

In the first scene of the finale, we heard Esau (the man in the black shirt) say that he wanted to kill Jacob, but he couldn’t. That scene reminded me of an earlier one, from Season 4, where we heard Ben say that he wanted to kill Widmore — but couldn’t:

Widmore: Have you come here to kill me, Benjamin?
Ben: We both know I can’t do that.

Ben told Widmore that he was going to kill Penelope, and that after she was dead

You’ll wish you hadn’t changed the rules

Here, again, is the opening scene from the Season 5 finale:

Esau: Do you have any idea how badly I want to kill you?
Jacob: Yes
Esau: One of these days, sooner or later, I’m going to find a loophole, my friend.

Ben couldn’t kill Widmore, but he could (in theory) kill Penny. Widmore was able to kill Alex, but apparently only by breaking the rules. Esau needed a loophole to kill Jacob. A loophole suggests there is a law — a set of rules — that has to be circumvented.

A law or a rule may be natural: What goes up must come down. It may be written and enforced by an individual or institution that possesses power: a monarch, a warlord, a constitution, a legislature. It may be supernatural: a God or a strange electromagnetic force.

When we saw Ben and Widmore last season, they were the most powerful forces we had seen up to that point, appearing to control, between the two of them, almost everything that happened on the Island.

This season, it was as if a camera had pulled back and given us a wider shot, showing us the forces behind Ben and Widmore, forces even more powerful than they are. Jacob and Esau are now the most powerful people we have ever seen on the show.

But even Jacob and Esau cannot do everything they want. So there is someone or something powerful enough to make and enforce the rules that limit what Jacob and Esau can do. It may be a law of nature, it may be a person or group of people, it may be a supernatural force or being.

Perhaps next season, after we find out who or what it is, we will discover that it’s just another intermediate layer, and the camera will pull back yet again, to reveal the power behind the power behind the power.

Questions about 5×10 He’s Our You

I received some questions from long-time reader Fazel from Amsterdam, who recently finished watching Episode 5×10 He’s Our You.

I was watching ep 5×10 (Sayid-centric) last week and I think I noticed some screw-ups in the script. But I want to run it by you, the Lost expert, first.

Sayid reacts to kid-Ben when he first introduced himself and then later on tells someone (Sawyer?) that he had met a kid-Ben in 1974(?). Now, tell me this… How the hell could he know that? Let alone even believe such a thing (he hadn’t seen the same evidence as the other Losties, thus his convincing was poor). The guy was separated from the other Losties, he was never on their journey of information and discovery. In fact, did he even participate in the meet of Hawkins? Didn’t he leave before they all went inside to meet her?

Had anyone even briefed him about time traveling and 1974? The first thing that seemed to have happened to him when crashed (he was there on his own and not on the plan of returning, thus makes him poorly informed) was being captured by Jin and Radzinsky. Their hadn’t been an opportunity to bring him up to speed up to that point, but yet he seemed very updated and convinced of these revelations (despite seeing little proof of it).

What do you say? =)

I was looking on YouTube for a clip of the scene where Jin saw Sayid in the jungle — and I saw that Disney recently pulled most of the clips for that episode off of YouTube! Boo! I hope that doesn’t leave too many holes in the archives of this blog and all the other LOST blogs, because we’ve all relied heavily in the past on embedding those clips.

Anyway there are just a few little clip-lets left. Here is where Jin sees Sayid in the jungle (this is from 5×09 Namaste):

The clip ends right at the point where Jin and Sayid recognize each other, so it doesn’t show how long they were alone together before Radzinsky shows up. As I remember it, though, they didn’t have very much time.

Even if there wasn’t enough time for Jin to say anything to Sayid, I think Sayid would figure it out. He must have thought that Jin had died in the freighter explosion. Yet there was Jin, alive, and wearing a Dharma jumpsuit!

In this next clip-let, Sawyer, Jin, and Radzinsky are bringing Sayid back to Dharmaville. Sayid sees Kate, Jack, and Hurley, who he last saw on Flight 316 — and they too are wearing Dharma jumpsuits! So he must just put two and two together to figure out that he is in the past. And as soon as Little Ben says his name, a lightbulb must have gone off in Sayid’s head.

Yet another inquiry. In the same ep as above, Sayid tells Dharma: “I know about, the hatch, swan, ‘the incident…’” etc. Now, I know that the season finale is named that and is about that, but I wondered where he got that information from. All the things he said, we the viewer had seen them too with Sayid. But the incident? When was this brought to Sayid’s attention?

I appreciate if you enlightened me without spoiling the finale

That’s another great scene whose clip I had linked to earlier that is now gone from YouTube (grumble grumble). Only this little clip-let remains:

I think that when Sayid said “the incident,” he was not seeing the future, not seeing “the incident” that will be shown in the Finale. I would guess he meant either (1) The “purge” that wiped out the Dharma Initiative (did the Losties learn about this from Ben??) or (2) What happened when Desmond turned the key at the end of Season 2.

I envy you not having seen the Finale yet, because you have a big treat to look forward to!

Simeon Hobbes is a fake!

Look!  It's an unofficial game!

Look! It's an unofficial game!

DarkUFO reported yesterday that the Simeon Hobbes game is a fan fake, not an official game from ABC.

“Elliot” confirmed it on the who is simeon hobbes? blog.

Although it’s not an official ABC game, “Elliot” says that it is a real game, not just a hoax. So the messages do present a puzzle that can still be solved, if what he/she/they say is true.

More information, as always, can be found on Lostpedia.

There is also a blog devoted to following the game, which may be the best place to keep up with what is going on. The blog has now been renamed the UNOFFICIAL Lost ARG.

What’s the best nickname for the ‘new’ Locke?



Hat tips to Reddit and Lostpedia forums

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