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	<title>Comments on: My Grand Theory of Everything</title>
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	<description>&#34;Each of us was brought to the island for a reason.&#34; -- John Locke</description>
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		<title>By: Ms Terri</title>
		<link>http://www.forareasonblog.com/2009/03/07/my-grand-theory-of-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-435</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms Terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 10:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m trying to wrap my mind around all that ... ;-)

What made the holes in the event timeline?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m trying to wrap my mind around all that &#8230; <img src='http://www.forareasonblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>What made the holes in the event timeline?</p>
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		<title>By: Siddhartha</title>
		<link>http://www.forareasonblog.com/2009/03/07/my-grand-theory-of-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-434</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddhartha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 10:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm. as far as i understand, preordained means that a path is set for u and u follow the path.

So in a way u can say that this is true for faraday, but its not true for others (locke and his current party if they dont go back in time, jack and party if they come back to normal time) 

What they are currently doing in the show is living in the past (1977, but not their past), acting in their present which in a way would shape both their past (post crash time) and present and possibly future (if they ever escape back to 2007 and later on)

So the show in no way advocates destiny. Its more like filling the hole in the event timeline. Once that is done,  these characters may possibly move forward. 

At this juncture, i do not foresee any happy ending for all of them. Their lives, minds are scarred by the island and the timeloop and it wd be impossible for them to recover to a better lifestyle. Maybe we wd have these guys form the others in the past or the future. But most of them are gonna stay on the island, dead or alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm. as far as i understand, preordained means that a path is set for u and u follow the path.</p>
<p>So in a way u can say that this is true for faraday, but its not true for others (locke and his current party if they dont go back in time, jack and party if they come back to normal time) </p>
<p>What they are currently doing in the show is living in the past (1977, but not their past), acting in their present which in a way would shape both their past (post crash time) and present and possibly future (if they ever escape back to 2007 and later on)</p>
<p>So the show in no way advocates destiny. Its more like filling the hole in the event timeline. Once that is done,  these characters may possibly move forward. </p>
<p>At this juncture, i do not foresee any happy ending for all of them. Their lives, minds are scarred by the island and the timeloop and it wd be impossible for them to recover to a better lifestyle. Maybe we wd have these guys form the others in the past or the future. But most of them are gonna stay on the island, dead or alive.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Terri</title>
		<link>http://www.forareasonblog.com/2009/03/07/my-grand-theory-of-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-433</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms Terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 10:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I can see, if something has already happened, and then it happens again and it has to happen the same way as it did before -- then it IS preordained.  

You see what I mean?

If Faraday, on a previous trip through the loop, went to 1977 and confronted Richard, then on his next trip through the loop, he would have to confront Richard again, because it already happened, right?  

So it would be preordained that he confronts Richard, each time he passes through 1977.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I can see, if something has already happened, and then it happens again and it has to happen the same way as it did before &#8212; then it IS preordained.  </p>
<p>You see what I mean?</p>
<p>If Faraday, on a previous trip through the loop, went to 1977 and confronted Richard, then on his next trip through the loop, he would have to confront Richard again, because it already happened, right?  </p>
<p>So it would be preordained that he confronts Richard, each time he passes through 1977.</p>
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		<title>By: Siddhartha</title>
		<link>http://www.forareasonblog.com/2009/03/07/my-grand-theory-of-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-432</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddhartha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 10:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also faraday wd not have memory of his actions in the past, so the loop stays. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also faraday wd not have memory of his actions in the past, so the loop stays. <img src='http://www.forareasonblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Siddhartha</title>
		<link>http://www.forareasonblog.com/2009/03/07/my-grand-theory-of-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-431</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddhartha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 10:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep... that is what happened.  

There is a catch here. Its not preordained. It has already happened. Think of it like a scheme of things which has happened. there is no way to change it. u change yr future by yr actions but u cannot change yr past. 
a line drawn is drawn. u may circle back to any pt back in the line but u cant change the line. ;-)

Eloise, faraday&#039;s mother realises this and thats why she lets him go for the trip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep&#8230; that is what happened.  </p>
<p>There is a catch here. Its not preordained. It has already happened. Think of it like a scheme of things which has happened. there is no way to change it. u change yr future by yr actions but u cannot change yr past.<br />
a line drawn is drawn. u may circle back to any pt back in the line but u cant change the line. <img src='http://www.forareasonblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Eloise, faraday&#8217;s mother realises this and thats why she lets him go for the trip.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Terri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms Terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 09:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, Siddhartha!

So are you saying that after Faraday was killed in 1977, then he was reborn several months later, and followed the course of his life just as we&#039;ve seen it, not being allowed to play the piano, going to Oxford and then the Island and then flashing back in time and being shot, and then being reborn again, over and over?

If there is an endless time loop, then wouldn&#039;t everything be preordained?  Unless things could happen differently each trip around the loop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Siddhartha!</p>
<p>So are you saying that after Faraday was killed in 1977, then he was reborn several months later, and followed the course of his life just as we&#8217;ve seen it, not being allowed to play the piano, going to Oxford and then the Island and then flashing back in time and being shot, and then being reborn again, over and over?</p>
<p>If there is an endless time loop, then wouldn&#8217;t everything be preordained?  Unless things could happen differently each trip around the loop.</p>
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		<title>By: Siddhartha</title>
		<link>http://www.forareasonblog.com/2009/03/07/my-grand-theory-of-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator>Siddhartha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 09:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
I broadly disagree with yr hypothesis. For the Oceanic Six, Sawyer and his DhaRMA party1977 is thier present.

The basic underlying principle is that what may be your present is a past for somebody else at a different point of time. So events in season 5 have been mostly what was always supposed to happen.  its an endless time loop. if you understand what i am trying to say. 

Michael couldn&#039;t kill himself coz the island didnt let him. he had to save the survivors. So faraday can be killed cox this is his presnt,not his past.  ppl like ben cannot be-- as their future self are supposed to be there. so it may seems that events are preordained. but they are not. Like faraday said, this has happened before, it is just that it is happening to them now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I broadly disagree with yr hypothesis. For the Oceanic Six, Sawyer and his DhaRMA party1977 is thier present.</p>
<p>The basic underlying principle is that what may be your present is a past for somebody else at a different point of time. So events in season 5 have been mostly what was always supposed to happen.  its an endless time loop. if you understand what i am trying to say. </p>
<p>Michael couldn&#8217;t kill himself coz the island didnt let him. he had to save the survivors. So faraday can be killed cox this is his presnt,not his past.  ppl like ben cannot be&#8211; as their future self are supposed to be there. so it may seems that events are preordained. but they are not. Like faraday said, this has happened before, it is just that it is happening to them now</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Terri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms Terri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 01:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome, Paul, to &#039;Lost for a reason.&#039;  

It certainly seems that many have tried, and failed, to change destiny.  To that extent that is always true,  then any free will they might have would be insignificant.

What&#039;s changed, though, since the time I wrote this post, is that we now know for sure that characters who were alive in 2004 can be killed in the past.  That&#039;s assuming that Faraday is really dead, as he appears to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome, Paul, to &#8216;Lost for a reason.&#8217;  </p>
<p>It certainly seems that many have tried, and failed, to change destiny.  To that extent that is always true,  then any free will they might have would be insignificant.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s changed, though, since the time I wrote this post, is that we now know for sure that characters who were alive in 2004 can be killed in the past.  That&#8217;s assuming that Faraday is really dead, as he appears to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.forareasonblog.com/2009/03/07/my-grand-theory-of-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-293</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 14:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael couldn&#039;t kill himself because he had to save the Oceanic 6. If the Oceanic 6 died, then they would never have travelled back in time and contributed to the past that brought Michael to the island (I&#039;m assuming that the incident that necessitates the Swan station&#039;s button involves Kate and Jack), back home, and to the brink of suicide. 
Sawyer couldn&#039;t have died, because he had to partake in the past which caused the 2004 events, which in turn, allowed then to time travel. 
As there seems to be no time paradoxes in Lost, these things are destined to happen. However, people are variables and they make decisions contrary to destiny (or constants). Their efforts will always fail to change the constants. Locke was miraculously healed because he had to be able-bodied in the past to do what he did.   Anthony Cooper (in an unintentional sense) tried to alter the past, by almost killing Locke. He failed, as Locke travelling back in time is a constant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael couldn&#8217;t kill himself because he had to save the Oceanic 6. If the Oceanic 6 died, then they would never have travelled back in time and contributed to the past that brought Michael to the island (I&#8217;m assuming that the incident that necessitates the Swan station&#8217;s button involves Kate and Jack), back home, and to the brink of suicide.<br />
Sawyer couldn&#8217;t have died, because he had to partake in the past which caused the 2004 events, which in turn, allowed then to time travel.<br />
As there seems to be no time paradoxes in Lost, these things are destined to happen. However, people are variables and they make decisions contrary to destiny (or constants). Their efforts will always fail to change the constants. Locke was miraculously healed because he had to be able-bodied in the past to do what he did.   Anthony Cooper (in an unintentional sense) tried to alter the past, by almost killing Locke. He failed, as Locke travelling back in time is a constant.</p>
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