You KNOW, Jack. You know that you’re here for a reason.

In this week’s official video podcast, Matthew Fox talks about the evolution of his character Jack.

The podcast starts with a clip from the Season 4 finale, where Jack and Locke, on top of the Orchid Station, are having another one of their arguments about destiny.

Locke tells Jack that he is not supposed to go home. Jack gets mad and yells, “What am I SUPPOSED to do?”

Then he says, “Oh, I think I remember. What was it you said on the way out to the hatch?”

He is referring to their argument in the Season 1 finale — the same argument that I wrote about in my previous post.

This is a great example of the crazy intricate way that LOST works. A conversation starts in Season 1, then picks up again, three years later, in Season 4, then is referenced on the internet in a podcast in the middle of Season 5.

I think this conversation is coming up in the podcast now because finally, after four-and-a-third seasons of Jack and Locke having the same conversation over and over, something is starting to shift.

In the Season 1 argument, Locke said that Jack may not believe the Island is his destiny, but he will believe it at a later time.

That later time appears to be now.

At the Orchid Station, Jack says to Locke that back at the hatch, Locke had told him that crashing on the Island was their destiny.

Locke says, “You KNOW, Jack. You know that you’re here for a reason. You know it.”

“And if you leave this place,” Locke continues, “that knowledge is going to eat you alive.”

Which is exactly what we saw happen in the flashforwards.

In the podcast, Matthew Fox talks about how Jack has always needed to be in control, but now he is starting to give that up.

I have mixed feelings about that in terms of the dramatic possibilities. I do like seeing Jack’s character develop and grow, but if Jack gives in completely to his sense of destiny, what will happen to the tension between Jack and Locke that has been such an important part of the show so far?

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11 responses to “You KNOW, Jack. You know that you’re here for a reason.

  1. Hi
    Great site here!
    I was wondering if you could help me identify an episode of Lost? I have a scene played out stuck in my head. It’s a conversation between Jack & Locke. It’s in fact a heated argument between the two. I think it was either in s2 or s3. No, it’s not from the s1 finale (I saw your post on that one).

    It goes something like this (all paraphrasing):
    Locke: why do you have such hard time believing?!
    Jack shouts: cause there was a time it wasn’t always that easy!!!

    They have a lot of those conversations, so the telling part is Jack’s response.

    /I appreciate the help

    • Hi. I’m glad you like the site — thanks!

      I think I found the scene! It’s from Orientation, Season 2 Episode 3:

      [LOCKE enters 42, and is about to press the execute button.]

      LOCKE: You do it, Jack.

      JACK: What?

      LOCKE: You have to do it.

      JACK: You do it yourself, John.

      LOCKE: You saw the film, Jack. This is a two person job, at least.

      SAYID: This argument is irrelevant.

      LOCKE: Sayid, don’t.

      SAYID: Jack.

      JACK: No. It’s not real. Look, you want to push the button, you do it yourself.

      LOCKE: If it’s not real, then what are you doing here, Jack? Why did you come back? Why do you find it so hard to believe?

      JACK: Why do you find it so easy?

      LOCKE: It’s never been easy!

      That’s from the Lostpedia transcript..

      I hope that helps get the scene unstuck from your head. πŸ˜‰

      • Ah. Thank you so much! It’s driven me crazy today :).

      • Glad I could help. There’s nothing worse than having a scene stuck in one’s head — except maybe having a song stuck there! πŸ˜‰

      • Another question if you don’t mind πŸ˜€
        I am catching up on Lost again (long time since I saw s4), so memory is fuzzy. I want to run it by you, if I’ve gotten everything in check.

        -I seem to recall that Michael went on a suicide mission, more or less, when Widmore/Abaddon offered him the deal to go on the freighter. He accepted. At the end he obeyed the order to blow up the freighter. But Ben only played him, nothing went off. But that doesn’t hold less merit that Michael would’ve done the deed. But where is the logic in that? When previously Walt distanced himself from his dad because of murder. So now his idea for redemption/atonement is kill more people? Have I missed something?

        -I saw a “previously on Lost” recently. It was from the finale, 4×14. Michael, Michael, Jin, Sun and Desmond barge in a room on the freighter. They stumble on to the bomb. Michael is genuinely surprised and says “Oh my God” with a disbelief look. Who set the bomb up for real this time? Was it Keamy before he left (I seem to recall that)? Shouldn’t Michael known how the device was set up? Since he was originally supposed to (or at least thought so) use it.

      • It was Tom, not Widmore, who offered Michael the job on the freighter. Tom told Michael that Widmore was trying to kill all the people on the island, and that Michael could stop Widmore. So Michael thought that by blowing up the boat, he was saving his friends on the island.

        The dynamite at the end wasn’t the same as the bomb that Michael brought with him. So his surprise when he saw it was probably genuine. It must have been Keamy, or one of his cronies, who set it up.

        I’m pretty confused about the freighter stuff too, so I’m not totally sure this is right. But I think it’s pretty close. πŸ™‚

    • Hey, it’s me again =)
      I just saw ep 5×05 This Place is Death. Locke said to Christian (Jack’s dad):
      “Richard said I was going to die.”
      Now, when did Richard say this to Locke?

      PS. I hope it’s ok that I come here and ask these questions, as I suspect it will be more frequent from now on. The reason being 1 ep/week, a lot of these details becomes forgotten.

      /thanks

      • Hi, Fazel! I do like trying to answer questions, though I don’t always know the answers.

        This one, though, I do remember. It was in the first episode of Season 5 (“Because You Left”), when there were a lot of time flashes, and Locke was hopping from one time to another.

        At one point he ran into Richard, and Richard gave him a compass. It was then that Richard said that Locke had to go back and get the other Losties in order to save the Island, and that in order to do so, Locke would have to die.

      • Ah, ok. Now, it’s starting to come back to me. I remember that scene perfectly, just not that specific line about he has to die.

        Oh Terri, what would I do without you =)

  2. That’s right, it was Tom. I remember what was told to Michael to make him join the mission. But we all know that the freighter people were not all bad people, only Keamy and his team of mercenaries. The rest of them most likely didn’t know of the Island or what Keamy and co. was doing. In fact, I’m positive of it. So I guess it was Michael being Michael. Meaning: stupid and making not whole lot of sense (just like at the end of s2).

    Thanks again Mrs. Terri =).

    • You’re welcome. πŸ™‚ I think that everything Michael did was because he was motivated by guilt. First he felt guilty because he wasn’t in Walt’s life, then he felt guilty because he let the Others grab Walt, then he felt guilty because he shot Ana Lucia and Libby. So he was always trying to redeem himself.

      It does seem like everything Michael did just made things worse. But then Christian Shephard showed up at the end — so maybe Michael did what he was supposed to do to play out his “destiny.”

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